Monday, June 26, 2023

Transcript- Annamarie Pluhar ARCHIVE Interview March 12, 2012


Annamarie Pluhar is an author and coach for #sharinghousing, relying on her 30+ years of living with others. Her easy-going coaching style and affirmative approach to eliminating the obstacles to #homesharing have made her one of the premier advisors for this lifestyle choice. She's could be considered a housemate 'mechanic' with her coaching ability, guiding the interviewing process and offering even-handed guidance for this lifestyle choice.


TRANSCRIPT

Thank you for joining me for this archival copy of an interview with author Annamarie Pluhar, an expert in shared housing. Annamarie is the author of “Sharing Housing: A Guidebook For Finding And Keeping Good Housemates”.  This archival interview was conducted on March 12,  2012. 

Let's Share Housing was a roommate matching service in Portland Oregon that conducted business from 2009 to 2015. Before the business was shuttered in 2015 they were interviewed by “AARP”, “Al Jazeera” and the “Today Show” among other media outlets.


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ZM: INTRO: Good morning, welcome to the “Let’s Share Housing Blog Talk Radio Show”, your home to explore the fundamental questions, rewards and benefits behind shared housing. Shared housing is a worldwide phenomenon. Who shares housing and why do they do it? Bi-weekly we talk with folks who are exploring shared housing and experts in the field. This is Zoe your shared housing advocate and host for today's show. You can reach me Pacific Standard Time at ***-***-**** with questions about shared housing. Thank you for joining our conversation today and remember, let's sharehousing.com is your resource for taking the next step. We're helping housemates connect.


ZM: Pull up a chair and sit down with us to welcome Annamaria Pluhar.  She's joined us today. She's an author of “Sharing Housing, A Guidebook For Finding And Keeping Good Housemates.” Annamaria offers workshops and coaching that support people in their quest for good housemates. Her website sharinghousing.com is a companion to her book. The website offers commentary links to resources and interviewing checklists and downloadable worksheets for home sharers everywhere. Thank you for joining us this morning Annamarie.


AP: I'm delighted to be here, thank you for asking me.


ZM: All right I'm glad you're here. So, your website and your book are rich resources to folks who are considering shared housing.  So I thought we could begin our conversation by exploring why folks like consider shared housing


AP: Oh I think that there are some very good reasons for sharing housing and I actually I think there are five reasons the first one is money and people are pretty clear about that when they join up to become housemates. You save so much money: when you're sharing the utilities when you're sharing the rent or mortgage when you're sharing various tasks and maintenance costs I think that part's obvious. 


AP: The other parts may not be so obvious.


AP:  The second reason is companionship. To have somebody at home that you can say hello to,  that you can say goodbye to, who might look at you and say “how was your day?” This can make a really big difference in a person's life and I think that we live in a society where it can be pretty hard to have a social life– or no I don't mean a social life,  I mean a spontaneous social connection. That's– we live in a funny society. So that's reason number two.


AP:  Reason number three is help around the house. Whether that be as a single mom sharing with another single mom and being able to spell each other on child care. Whether it's dog owners, who can spell each other on dog care or whether it's an older person for whom changing a light bulb is becoming a little bit difficult who shares housing with a younger person who can offer those kinds of help.  That's a, can be a really important reason for sharing housing.


AP: Fourth one is emergencies- Just recently I had a really bad back spasm that left me immobilized for three days. I would have been in really deep trouble if I had been living alone and hadn't had somebody who could help me out in that kind of an emergency and we have all the emergencies can go from locking yourself out to the kind of sickness that I had for a short period of time.


AP: And what's my fifth? I'm losing track.  I'll let you, uh, it'll come back to me.


ZM: Okay. Well our experience is there's three types of members on our website— those of her are just exploring, folks that are observing from on the fence, and those who are ready to move forward.  We've come to understand this is a process people go through as they consider shared housing. And those who’ve had success with a housemate in the past are probably the most willing to move forward proactively with shared housing. You're an author, coach, a mentor for shared housing and you have a unique perspective on this process. So what

research do you recommend people do when they're looking at this is an option?


AP:  Oh I think the really key and most important piece of research is the one that goes in inside. That people get very clear, before they do any talking to anybody else or thinking about it or or whatever, about what they must have and what they can't live with,  and in their home, because they're talking about sharing housing with somebody and they're going to have a home together or as a group.


AP:  Um and I'll use as an example I have a friend and colleague who I discovered when she when I discovered she had an empty room in her house I said oh you should have a housemate and she said “no way!” And a year later, out of the blue, she looked at me and she said “ oh I owe my financial solvency to you" and I said “huh?”  and she said that she sat down, read my book cover to cover and realized that her fears about having a housemate **were bigger than they** should be and that she had a whole lot more control on whom she let live with her. 

 And so I think that the research that's necessary is to come to terms with what the important things are for you, so that those are the things you go looking for when you look for a housemate.


ZM: yeah definitely research, research is key. And I think you're right people don't consider inside, at first glance that it's important to dig a little bit deeper into that. So we recommend when people are researching shared housing that they find road maps to help them on their journey. And your website is a great resource for people Annamarie.  I'd like to…


AP: Thank you


ZM: Maybe just go through some of the things that you're doing on the site.  I noticed that you're doing a blog. Um, you often have people who have testimonials and comments. So, you just did a total revamp. Why don't we talk a little bit about what tools your website offers to people who are considering shared housing?


AP: Love to, because it's a big piece of it.  So I think one of my key piece- tools is something, is a questionnaire.  I've sometimes called it an interviewing questionnaire or a checklist, but basically what it does it's the multiple choice, quick little thing with 13 questions that asks you about cleanliness, neatness, noise,  guests,  routines,  kitchen use,  um finances, and tasks and helps you think about these key areas.  Because in all my experience of sharing housing,  and I have over 20 years of experience,  those are the areas that make or break a relationship. And so my questionnaire, you can take it it's a multiple choice questionnaire, then you can get it emailed to yourself so that you have it as a resource for going and interviewing. You could ask somebody else that you're considering to be a housemate to also take the questionnaire and then you can sit down and talk about your answers to these questions. And it's a conversation starter. It's not the be all and end all, and you don't necessarily have to have the same answers, but you need to have a conversation about those critical areas. So that's one tool. 

AP: Another tool are downloadable worksheets. The worksheets were created as part of the book and they're in the book.  My book is “Sharing Housing: A Guidebook For Finding And Keeping Good Housemates.  But each one of the worksheets that's in the book is also downloadable from the web site, so that you can print it out and write it up and then you, can if you want to, do it again, you can do a different one. Um, so those are my two key things.


AP:  Of course I keep a blog going. I have a list of resources which includes, um your database.  Um what else do I have on there?  I offer myself as a coach, to help people on a one-to-one basis.  I also offer workshops for people,  for groups of people if they're interested… um what else do I have there Zoe?


ZM: Well,  you,  one of the things that you have besides the questionnaire,  is you kind of go a little bit deeper into that whole coaching question because a lot of times people, when they're exploring,  I mean they're spending a lot of time, energy looking,  and the coaching component involves sessions that you offer. You can offer a variety of sessions. So, why don’t we talk a little bit about those? Because those look like a great resource for somebody who's really beginning to explore.


AP: Well what I did was,  I have a very clear idea,  and I write it up in the book, what the process is for sure for finding a good housemate. And I think it should, I should be clear, that I'm really focused on the relationship that you're be building with the person, and um I'm assuming that most people know how to deal , how to think about the physical space, whether they like  a ranch house or a brick house, or whatever like that.


AP: So my coaching I have packaged in various different groups, so that if somebody wanted to have help with just getting clear on what kinds of questions they were asking I could coach that. Or I might help somebody start from the very beginning of “do I really want to do this, why would I want to do this” through the process of actually moving in with somebody.  I have it packaged in very, in different ways, to try to help people understand what the process is. And maybe in fact,  looking at that, that page, which is just the coach page on my website, might help people see what the road map is- that I think is the process for finding a good housemate.


ZM: Sure because it is kind of a little jog to look at look through that information to know that um there's things out there– and we found the book to be a really good resource. We refer people to the book quite often and we have a link to it on the website. Um so let's talk a little bit,  because we haven't really had this part of the conversation maybe just briefly, about what brought you to writing a book on sharing housing.


AP: Um it's a moment in a conversation with a friend. I've already mentioned that I've lived in shared housing for over 20 years of my adult life.  I have,  um,  I guess I've always been been clear that I don't want to live alone,  and so in various different places in my life I would look for and have roommates. 


AP: The impetus behind this book however came when I was having a conversation with my friend Deb and she said she was complaining about her finances and I said “you have an asset, use it” and she said “what are you talking about” and I said “rent a room in your house” and she's like “I don't think so I've had bad roommates, I don't want to do that” and I said and I said “yeah but you did such a lousy “...I didn't say it quite this way, but the truth of the matter was she had not done a very good job of selecting her housemates. And she said “well will you coach me?” and I said “sure I'll coach you”. 


AP: And after we got off the phone I realized that in fact over the 20 years I had developed a process that was working for me. And I realized I could make available to other people and have it work for them. Because most people when they've had a bad housemate relationship, have also done a horrible job of selecting that housemate.


ZM: Sure- well,  you're a really great resource for anybody that's considering shared housing. We’ve just got a couple minutes left. I was wondering if you’d just like to share your website address?


AP: Sure it is www.sharinghousing.com.  It's actually two ings in there, sharinghousing.com and uh I would love to see people come and visit me there, and I'm hoping to soon put up a question, question and answer um section of the website– I haven't quite figured out how to do that.


ZM: Yeah, I think that'd be a great resource. So thank you for spending a few minutes with us this morning Annamarie. I'm going to let you go but um I'm looking forward to talking to you again soon.


AP:  Okay and I should tell people I have a Facebook page too, which is “Sharing Housing” which is an immediate way of connecting with me.


ZM:  Excellent!  So we'll talk soon.  So thank you so much Annamarie


AP:  Thank you Zoe bye-bye.


 ZM: We'll send them there. 


ZM: Next week we'll be meeting Yvonne, a YouTube interviewee on Monday March 26th at 10 A.M Pacific Standard Time. Join us on the Let’s Share Housing Blog Talk Radio Show or find out more about Yvonne at our Let’s Share Housing Facebook page if you're ready to explore shared housing go to let'ssharehousing.com for our calendar, videos and helpful ways.  This is your resource for taking that next step. We're helping housemates connect. This is Zoe, your shared housing advocate,  signing off for now. See you on the 26th.


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We're enthusiastic about conversations about shared housing. Please let us know if you have a positive spin to share and let others know about the benefits and rewards of sharing.



Resources


Annamarie conducts informative Q&A Sessions twice monthly.

 Links to register for the Q&A sessions can be found here https://www.facebook.com/SharingHousing

Annamarie's Website: sharinghousing.com 

Annamarie's book: Sharing Housing-A Guidebook For Finding And Keeping Good Housemates

Annamarie's Classes: https://sharinghousing.com/lessons/ 


The Share is a collective of shared housing advocates, experts and enthusiasts dedicated to highlighting the benefits of shared housing. 


The Share can be found on Facebook Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/thesharecollectiveresource

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Wednesday, June 21, 2023

Transcript: Chatting with Doris Beckman of Home Sharing Golden Girls Style

 

Transcript Doris Beckman of Home Sharing Golden Girls Style chats with The Share

Inspired by The Golden Girls sitcom, Doris Beckman is the founder of "Home Sharing Golden Girls Style," a Facebook group, and the Facebook page called "Golden Connections." Doris has been successfully home sharing since 2016, after thinking that #homesharing would be either a last-ditch financial option or a really fun opportunity for social life and support -- like on the TV show. She gained the right experience in the home share sector by working with #thoughtleader Annamarie Pluhar and Home Match Monterey. Listen to a successful home-sharing provider explain her unique experience. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k04Xp1lJApQ&t=42s)


Mountain of Medical Bills vs Empty Bedrooms Her Equation For Home Sharing Golden Girls Style

I got started after my husband passed away,  I was in danger of losing my house.  I had a mountain of medical bills and we had wiped out all our savings, 401K,  everything was gone. 


I knew that I had to do something you know to be able to continue to live here.  I've always loved the show The Golden Girls and thought it would be great to live that way but never expected to really have to do it. Because I thought “Oh, I'm married and you know, everything's fine”  but things happen. I thought of, I guess,  you know like I said, I like the Golden Girls concept.


I always thought in the back of my mind,  it wasn't really a plan, but it was like “Well, that would be an option” you know, if anything happened.

Area Home Match Introduced Her To Shared Housing Idea


Well I worked for “Home Match” and we had interviewed a bunch of home sharing programs that we were hoping to bring into this area. 


You know one of the things that we found is people wait too long. They wait till they're really in crisis and then they think well, that's the way to go, but then we couldn't help them. So they need to start thinking of it much earlier.

Author Annamarie Pluhar’s Sharing Housing Program Informs Decision Making


I started searching online and came across Annamarie and what she was doing. We are trying to get funding to do Annamarie's program here. I started *it * based off of Annamarie's, what she was doing. She had come out here, in fact she stayed with me. 


And at the time I was part of the Area Agency on Aging. They were supposed to be finding affordable housing for older people and so Annamarie came and we invited non-profits mostly. There were 35 non-profits and it was a full day workshop. That was back in 2018.

Doris’s Facebook Page Home Sharing Golden Girls Style


I was hoping that it would be more of a local but it hasn't turned out that way. I think people there posting are really out of state. I did start one for the local area.

[search Facebook for her group, Home Sharing Golden Girls Style]


Vetting Housemates for Home Sharing

[Do you have interview questions you ask potential housemates?]

I went through the questionnaire that was in Annamarie's book. You know, the one that we both answer and then compare our answers.


Setting Up Her Four Bedroom House for Home Sharing


Well I have a four bedroom house so I put a separate entrance into the front bedroom.  I could close it off eventually if that's what I wanted to do. But I do, like I say, I like the The Golden Girls concept. I don't want to just be collecting rent from somebody, I want to have that kind of friendly relationship connection.


Current Housemate Considerations

[What were the aspects that helped you to decide on your current housemate?]

That she didn't, you know, she didn't have any pets of her own. She did pet sitting.

Age was important to me too. She is older than me. 

That she was still active and she was, she is petsitting again.  

But I think maybe she got into a situation where she thought “oh, I don't have to worry about it as much so I can take time off”  but I said “that kind of changes what I was expecting”.

I just didn't want somebody that was here all day long when I'm trying to work.


She likes to garden.  I've got a little front patio and all. She's brought you know some trees and stuff like that that she's brought with her.  So she's made the patio really nice. She likes to go out there and sit you know, or have her lunch.


She is a big help, you know. She doesn't cook all the time now because she's decided she wants to lose weight. But, you know, we have meals together and it's a companionship type of a situation.


Housing Grant Eliminates Shortfall


The lady I have with me now came in in January. At first I had wanted more money than she could afford but it seemed to be exactly what I was looking for. You know, she liked to cook and that type of thing. “Maybe that would be worth coming down”. And in fact, I even discussed it on the group with Annamarie and they said well she wasn't able to do the first and the last month's rent and the security deposit.


She was telling  the lady at Carmel Foundation ‘well I can't, you know, I can't really afford it. And they had a grant. And they ended up paying her first and her last month, or  the security deposit and the last month's rent. So it worked out.


Sharing Housing Is Stepping Stone For Home Seekers


My first experience was in 2016.  She was here probably for about…she was a school teacher

And she was very active. She did a lot of volunteering so she was gone a lot at

night because she did ushering for the theater and things like that. It worked out well. She had been teaching at a school that's right down the street from me. Of course when the

school opened the next year they transferred her clear across town. She ended up finding something that was closer to the school that she was in. 


Let’s see, after her I had, oh it was a man that was out here doing work. And he was referred by a friend that I walk with all the time. He was going to be gone too, you know,  he had to go home and while he was gone he actually continued to keep paying rent


During that time I had somebody else move into the other room. She really didn't work out. She had told me that she you know she liked to cook. She liked to come home like at 11 o'clock at night and cook full meals. 


Communicating With A Housemate “Really, this just is not working” 


She (sic) was a music teacher and she really wanted to be in the Bay area. So I sat down with her and I said “ Well, do you know anybody in that area? You start talking to your friends and see if there's anything available”  She ended up moving to Berkeley and she's got a place that has her own little kitchen and stuff to herself.  That's not going to bother anybody so that worked out well for her and for me. I was happy.


The fourth one. I knew her from the professional women's group. She was a Rancher.  She did a lot of yard work and heavy lifting and stuff around here. She was a great help during COVID because she did all the grocery shopping and everything. For each hour she worked I was paying her an hourly rate off the rent.


You know the situation changed. Because *originally* she was out of the house working and I was in the house and then when COVID hit we were both in the house.  That just didn't, you know, work out as well so she decided she was going to go ahead and do her do her traveling  and see if there was somewhere else that she could live more affordably. 


Looking Back At Her Sharing Experience


I have to say I don't regret any of them because I learned a lot from each one. I learned more about myself and what I want. You know,  what  not to settle for,  what's not right.


What do you consider to be the benefit of sharing a home?


Well of course there's a financial benefit.


It's sustainable for the Earth. You're not having two of everything you know if you're sharing a toaster an oven and refrigerator and things like that.


The help around the house. Especially as we age, we can't do as much as we used to. That's a big bonus.


The companionship. It's nice to have somebody ask you how your day was or leave a light on for you if you're out at night you know.  There's times that I've come home and there was dinner waiting for me which I didn't expect.


You know I think having other people around is what keeps you active.


I think there's a lot of benefits.


 If it’s started early it can become where you have that help as you age, like if you need a ride.


Loneliness is a big health risk now you know.  People are isolated and by ourselves like that.


People First, Not Stuff


You have four bedrooms, you fill them up with a bunch of stuff, you know?  I'm using them for storage and all. And it's like, no, it's time for people first. [Doris's People First Teaser]


[What does your family think about you sharing housing?]

They are happy that I'm sharing.

You know I don't want to be a burden on my kids I don't think it's their responsibility to have to worry about me, you know and I do want to be able to leave the house to them. I can't do that you know, I can't do it without the sharing.


I don't want to go out and have to work in my 70’s.





Doris Beckman 


Chatting With Doris Beckman of Home Sharing Golden Girls Style


Stabilizing Housing In Monterey County Through The Home Match Program


Sharing Housing- Annamarie Pluhar



Tuesday, June 13, 2023

Doris Beckman Turns Her People First Plan Into Shared Housing Reality

A Chat With Doris Beckman of Home Sharing Golden Girls Style


We posted an article about a gardening housemate to Doris's Facebook group, Home Sharing Golden Girls Style.  She responded her housemate likes to garden. And that she was open to talking about her home sharing experience. 

So on May 24, 2023 we sat down for a visit. 

Doris Beckman Talks About Home Sharing


Since 2016 Doris has shared her four bedroom home with a gardener and other vetted housemates. The home sharing lifestyle has given Doris financial stability, companionship, help around the house and the security of having someone close at hand. Her family agrees. 

Having been involved with Monterey County's Home Match program Doris saw many benefits that home sharing had for local seniors. Her role as a placement specialist with Home Match coupled with die-hard Golden Girls fandom equaled an advocate inspired by the lifestyle of the four housemate in the sitcom.

In daydreams, Doris pictured herself living with friends. She hadn't really planned for the possibility.

Things Change

During our chat Doris talks about her path to sharing, working with lifestyle differences, her family's blessing and the benefits she sees in sharing a home. We discuss it's personal impact and how she visions the way forward for others considering a shared housing lifestyle.



Shared Housing Mentor

Meet Annamarie Pluhar


She's Doris's inspiration. Annamarie authored Sharing Housing: A Guidebook For Finding And Keeping Good Housemates, is a workshop presenter and legislative advocate for shared housing in her home state. Doris is working to bring Annamarie's home sharing program to Monterey County and we hope she succeeds. 

Doris walks the walk using Annamarie's program and advocates for sharing, a lifestyle choice that holds many benefits.



Haven't been introduced to Annamarie yet? The Share's founder Zoe Morrison interviewed Annamarie about her work and her book in 2012. 


Annamarie, Doris and many many others bring a positive approach to sharing a home. They inspire shared housing as one alternative to aging in place. 

Don't you agree, it's good to have options as we navigate our way forward.






Thursday, May 25, 2023

Fill Bedrooms With People First

Doris Beckman of Golden Connections snippet: Filling a home with people or stuff. She Chooses People

Sunday, May 14, 2023

 

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A Postcard From Staten Island

Two shared housing explorers visit the Ganas Intentional Community

A brick with the word GANAS embedded in the clay on a sidewalk

A few months ago my eldest daughter invited me to attend an online visitors meeting at Ganas, an intentional community on Staten Island.

After the visitors meeting, we arranged to meet this month in New York and head over to the Island to learn more about this particular type of shared housing model.


Ganas currently houses 60 residents in 7 separate houses located within a central city block location. The St. George Ferry dock is downhill from the Ganas community, about a 25 minute walk from the community. -Ed. zm

Observations about Ganas from Deirdre Morrison


“The Ganas Community emphasizes communication that urges residents to be in right relation with one another, working through interpersonal concerns to show value and inclusiveness to the variety of characters that live there.


“In a working class neighborhood that's experienced disinvestment and socioeconomic uncertainty, Ganas' collective of 7 homes is lush with garden zones, many gathering spaces, and offerings for shared stewardship and learning. “


“The people I met there felt kind, authentic, and open to possibility--and it was extremely intergenerational, and more ethnically diverse than other communities I've spent time in.


“I liked that Ganas makes a point to remain cost-effective, with a set relatively low monthly resident contribution that include housing, food, household supplies, and utilities. To me, this is a major and essential point of accessibility in comparison to other communities/co-housings who's buy-in or monthly cost feels out of reach on a modest income.”

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